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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:50:38 -0800
From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com>
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Subject: Re: Graphics suggestion
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Status: RO
On 6 Nov 1997, Clinton Jeffery wrote:
> Anders Holtsberg (andersh@maths.lth.se) wrote:
> : Now a straight question to you developers: Can't you use e g vxWindows
> : cross platform library directly when developping Icon? Then it would run
> : on a bunch of platforms with rather minimal changes in source code, i e
> : no extra job for you! It would be great to have graphics on all platforms!
>
> ... snip ...
>
> Really, we would have loved a suitable cross-platform library when we
> started implementing Icon's graphics, but it didn't exist back then. If it
> exists now, it isn't obvious to me.
Tk?
> I've seen mostly expensive commercial
> cross-platform libraries; the few freeware products that might do the job
> haven't become widely adopted enough to give confidence.
Tk seems to fit the bill for me here, but opinions vary of course.
There are Perl-Tk, Python-Tk, ML-Tk, etc. Numerous commercial and free
products are built with Tk, and it seems fairly stable now.
> Java is starting
> to come close, and it would be cool if the Java implementation of Icon
> supported graphics, but I don't expect that to happen any time soon.
It would also be nice if Icon snarfed the Java package system, or
something better. Maybe in Idol? :-).
You should probably wait a while before trying to use Java graphics APIs,
as they don't seem to have settled yet.
-- Brian